Voice over:

Welcome to the Kids Entertainer Podcast, the world's leading podcast for children's and family entertainers, and here to help you in your journey of spreading smiles and joy, your host, Zivi Kivi.

Zivi:

Hello, and welcome back to the Kids Entertainer Podcast. Hi, I'm Zivi Kivi. And today we have seasons seven starting, and this season is going to be very different. Very special situation in the world does justify a special season for that reason. I've invited to come back to be my cohost.

 

Danny:

Hello, Zevi thank you so much for inviting me back. And I'm really excited to be here for this special season seven

 

Zivi:
And especially to ease for a very tragic situation in the world right now, which is a pandemic. And that is also the topic of our first episode. What are we going to talk about today?

 

Danny:

Well, today we're going to talk about, can you perform in a world with a pandemic situation going on?

 

Zivi:
And that's a big question. Like, can you, do you perform these days?

Danny:

I'm about to perform outside doing some balloon twisting I haven't ventured into online performing. So that area is still new to me and come the autumn. I might do it. Who knows? There's still possible opportunities for that. Yeah. I'm doing other things and I'm keeping safe. That's the main thing. First, the first thing we need to consider is are you safe?

 

Zivi:

Yeah, it's something that we will talk about today as well. In general, things have changed, not just about our ability to perform, but just in the fact that there's way, way less events, like way less events going on as a result of people not being able to sometimes legally, sometimes just morally meets together in bunches and celebrates.

 

Danny:
Definitely. And the other thing is your area may be completely different from your friends across the world, because this is a global pandemic. You're in Israel, I'm in England and the listener. So wherever they are. And so it really depends on where you are in the world.

 

Zivi:

Yeah. Yeah. It does make a lot of difference on some locations like in Israel, we've had a really efficient lockdown followed by a reopening. Now we are back to all sorts of restrictions now to 10 people in those 20 people outdoors, depending on the day of the week. Sometimes it's 20 in those as well. But we see, we see magicians, uh, that basically market either zoom shows or very, very small exclusive events where you have to pay a lot of money for the free drinks and everything. And you go, literally you drive to this private loft somewhere in a towel. And it's a way for, for the musician to just survive to a show for 20 people up to 20 people, including him. Uh, but that type of solutions and not necessarily something that can be done with teeny spells on his sixth birthday, he'd been like, mom and dad are not going to drive his friends to a loft somewhere in a tower and pay 200 bucks a ticket.

So there's less events and less money going go on with our customers. What can you do? What should you take into consideration if you're listening to this?

 

Danny:

That's a very good question. And I've been doing a little bit of research before coming here today. So I think it's really important to see what your laws are, uh, currently today. And it may change tomorrow or next week or in a month time because everything is very fluid at the moment. You have to bear in mind that things are happening and things are changing very quickly. And sometimes the government can't make any laws specifically for magicians or entertainers or kids, entertainers, because there's so much going on for them. But I went onto the UK government website and it talks about some really basic things. It talks about risk, the risks for your own health. And of course the risks for your audience as well.

 

Danny:
When we're working with kids, they're not necessarily very aware of what they should be doing, what they can't be doing, all of the kind of that kind of thing. What do you think?

 

Ziv:

Well, I think that, uh, the risk is real. First of all, like just knowing that you might be canning this 19 in you and you're not showing any symptoms yet, and you can literally be infectious while being unaware that you don't have fever. You don't have any symptoms that by itself is quite scary to me. Like the zombie apocalypse type of scary. I've heard from KEA members of how hard it was. Like, I know a few of them that have lost a family member. Maybe rest in peace. This is really, really tragic and serious. Even kids at the Daniels themselves that got, got the bug and the recovery is way, way harder than any flu they ever had. It's a slowly cavalier and it's painful and it's scary very much so. So you don't want to be sick. You don't want to make anyone else sick, especially not like you're going to bell to, to entertain kids. What are you going to do with this virus? It's a complicated situation.

 

Danny:
Definitely. Definitely. I totally agree. So what can we do? So the other things that the website talked about was things that you can do and things that you must maintain, like social distancing, and that varies again where you are and it also, you might be social distancing, but the kids probably won't be. And the adults may not even be interested at a party situation because there it goes out of people's heads very quickly. You can't see this virus. It's really difficult to kind of go, oh, the sun's out. It's summer time. If you're in the Northern hemisphere, obviously it's, uh, it's very difficult to forget that there is something going on. So it's important to maintain social distancing. And, and also we, as entertainers now have to change a lot. We have to change, uh, using, uh, volunteers, which is a huge part of the show, bringing kids up, getting them involved on stage with you, them handling your props.

 

So there's a lot to think about when you're thinking about performing, sorry, in a, in the situation in the pandemic.

 

Zivi:

I want to talk for a second about this one about the volunteers, because really this is, uh, this is a very steep price to pay for us as entertainers. We have been performing for millennials and for like, when we perform the common advice is to create interactions. And to one of the things that creates a very emotional is when you're doing something with a volunteer, because everyone can relate to the week of the volunteer. If there's a volunteer standing beside you, it just makes the entire metrics like way more interesting, all the funny routine and the, it is interesting for the parents as well for the adults to see a kid interact with you on stage, is it still worth it? I asked to perform when you weekend to use volunteers, what do you think about that? Is it the ecto as well as a director?

 

Danny:

I think there are many ways you can interact with the audience and as a performer as well. You can, you don't have to have somebody up there with you. From my experience in theater shows, I performed theater shows. I dunno ever will again, because who knows, but I think you can get the audience involved from their seats where they're sitting and you can get the adults involved as well. You can ask them as usual to call out things, do a call and response things, to get them to point, get them to say the magic words with you, all, all these kinds of things, our group involvement. And I think you can choose people where they're sitting to ask them specific questions as well, get the adults do stuff, get the kids versus adults, kind of thing, going divide the audience.

 

It's a very old, strict technique to divide the audience in half and pit each half against each other. And that creates a really good ambience as well. So there are many things you can do. And one of my favorites that I'm working on is using puppets, have a puppet with you as a vault, as a kind of a guest star in your show. And they act like the kid and maybe even the kid can tell the puppet what to do. So through the puppet, they, they become more involved.

 

Zivi:

You know, it makes me think about how in theater, just like you have so much experience with you. If you go to a stage show of a theater show, some show or something, you won't see them take someone from the audience it's fascinating and still feels more energetic and powerful to be in the theater rather than to see a video of that shot, right?

 

There is something about the stage performing live and powerful, and that is still something that can be achieved even with no.

 

Danny:

But definitely you have to remember life entertainment is the best. And however, however virtual shows are doing it's a great substitute, but to, to be there in a room and react to what the kids are doing to what the adults are saying, are they on their phones? They shouldn't be because you're being brilliant on stage. So it's really important to if it's safe, if it's possible to have live shows or, and it may not be inside, you know, you can still do live shows outside and outside is a bit, much safer way. Now you can have more people outside than inside, and it comes with problems, but everything, everything comes with problems at the moment. So life performance is worse, aiming for and striving for,

 

Zivi:

You know, we actually, we actually had a lecture on outdoor performances back in KEA.

And I think that might be something that if, if you guys are listening now and you're thinking, Hey, live performance. Yes, it is safer. We've heard about maybe from our government or whatever I've heard as well.

This is safe. Uh, and, uh, but how do you do it? Then we have a lecture we'll make that lecture available for free for anyone that listens to this episode over in Kids Entertainer Hub because it's really right now a situation where like, we don't know how long it will take. We don't, we just don't know. It could be, uh, a significant change for a favor. That's why we're recording this now in sharing this show with you so that you could be inspired and move on to maybe taking action of some sorts, including going online or going into filming outside, or just be aware of what is happening across the pond.

And in other parts of the world, you're not alone in this really situation. As a performance dislike people, people at least stylist took away from us. Something that we really loved about our lives. And that is that we make people laugh. We make people clap. We entertain them. We make them, we help people forgetful moments about the hardship of the world. We can not perform as often these days. What are other recommendations that you've sought, you've seen in your research?

 

Danny:

So, uh, streamlining your show to, to make it easy to clean afterwards, which I think is really important. So for example, I'm hoping to go balloon twisting of the weekend outside for a paid gig. And I'm not having any fabric that I normally have. I'm not having any banners on making it as easy to pack up and set up as possible and everything I have will be wipeable.

 

So it just, I'm going to get there, set up and wipe everything down in front of people. So it looks like I'm doing what I should be doing, even though I may have done that already beforehand. And then at the end, I'll stick it all in my suitcase and my car, bring it back, leave it overnight, and then do the same thing clean up afterwards. So I think it's really important. And I also invested in some face shields masks that go fully in front so I can perform safely if needed, but I'm not wearing a mask cause I'm going to be outside. But to look like I'm safe as well is really important.

 

Zivi:

And to look like you're safe to be safe and, and look like it is important because like you're working with kids and you want to make sure that you apply to what the regulations are, the health regulation style in your area.

Like they can learn from you and later on, say, Hey, but I saw the magician is doing this and why, why do I need to wear a mask or whatever? Like you are in educational figure. Even if you are only entertaining, you're still an adult.

 

Danny:
Definitely. Absolutely. It's really important for your, for your health, for your business, for your reputation to look like, you know what you're doing. So here's a fantastic example. This gig I'm about to do somebody put a director of the payer in my town, which is the windiest place I could possibly think of over the sea to perform. He put a call out for children's entertainers on Facebook. And one of my friends in my local town said, Hey, Donna, you need to respond to this. So I did. And his question was, how can you give out balloons in this COVID environment?

 

Danny:

And so I wrote, I said, great, I'll reply tomorrow. What's your best email. Okay. And then I did some research online. I looked at a few Facebook groups and also went on to some sites and got some advice from a doctor, friend of mine. And then I composed took me about 40 minutes the next day to write this email with what I was going to do, all the proof of why they should tie me some quotes from local businesses that have used me before. And I sent the email Kate, great, I've done that 10 minutes later, he rang me. He rang me back saying, wow, I really love your email. Thank you so much because I've been having problems. There's some been some local politics with a pair, but also another children's entertainer, a local one. I don't, he didn't say who it was said, why are you asking me all these COVID questions?

 

What's that got to do with anything? And he said, your answer, your full email, just reassured me that you're a professional. You know what you're doing? And I want to, I want to work with you. Well, so it's really important that you do your research. You know what you're talking about and you, you are the experts. They don't know they've got a million things to do. If they're organizing events. I mean, this is a big public event. So he's organizing bands, he's organizing stalls, selling stuff and all kinds of things that he has to comply with as a kind of open air venue. So it's really important that you know what you're doing. You are certain that now I can't do a party of 50 people indoors, but I can do a party of 30 people outdoors. And I need these rules to, to apply.

Ziv:

It is only fair that the customers might have their own concerns. And let's remember that people that are walking with balloons have potentially the ability to face them with an hour with. And that's something that I know that you're not doing. You're using an inflator in many ways to inflate balloons. These days like electronically this electric, uh, a small one, like by gender and whatnot and all sorts of flow flow pumps, uh, the feel better than the McFarlane and whatnot. And just even a regular two 60 pounds can inflate it with the pump, but the customer, not that necessarily, they think when they go back into mentally, maybe they think about an entertainer that he was as he smiles, like before the pandemic, remember people used to use the math for all inflating balloons. That's something that is a little bit tricky now, too.

 

Danny:

But it's important to educate as well because people don't know how magicians work or balloon artists or circus people. And so you are the expert you need to say no, from now on, I'm not inflating by mouth anymore. I'm using a hand pump or an electric pump or whatever you use. And I wash my hands after each balloon and with the, what do you call it? The hand sanitizer. So they need to know this. And it makes you look like, you know what you're doing because you do, because you've done the research you've done. You've kind of checked in with various useful and informative places and you know, your stuff from experience.

 

ZiviL

Yeah. So know your staff. And, and like, I think that working with gloves makes sense for some 100% cotton spandex gloves that can be used for, for twisting. And it looks professional. It looks like an extra barrier between your fingers and two balloons. That's another way that you can show that you put cautions for, for spreading this virus.

 

And of course there are other ways to entertain kids. Even with balloons, there are ways where you make a balloon and it's a special piece. It is like with the guessing game of some sort or with a challenge game does actually cost about that as well on top to 10, without eating your way, or at least using the number of farmers that you need to give to, if you only need to give six balloons in an hour, because you're making something really big and impressive, but then you'll make, you're taking less risk in that moment of giving the balloon away. You might even put it away in a bag and get them to take, take it one by one or something. So there's a lot of solutions out there. You just need to be intentional and change the way you do the way you are, the same kids, whether no matter how, what do you do? You just need to adapt.

 

Danny:

I just wanted to remind people as well, listening that, um, I thanks to you. I did a little lecture on, on gags with, uh, PPE stuff, pandemic gags. That's uh, I think of still available maybe if you're yeah. And so the trick is to be entertaining with whatever you're doing, whether it's magic or puppets of juggling, you can still be entertaining without volunteers and we are entertainers. That's the main thing we do. So it's really important to remember all that. Once you get past all the, I have to clean my equipment. I have to do this. I have to do that, but you still have to be entertaining as well. I think, I think there's a people have point here. Like we, as entertainers, we learn a lot from other people. We learn how to be into looking at DVDs and online courses and books and YouTube.

 

Ziv:

And, uh, we, we sometimes find out that voice and welcome material like religion teams. And we'll talk about that later in the season. But if you need permission to  reinvent, you'll show your services to change them. Then here's your permission. You have it. It's yours, it's yours. You can decide that you're inventing your show all over again, that you're changing the routines with, with, uh, with clinic-wide or with some other objects that is not SpongeBob, so that you're doing your sponge routine in a different way so that the kids will not touch the same spot until now by thousands of kids before them. And maybe even was inside your mouth. And you're literally put the sponge into your mouth again and begin again. And yeah, that those things are kinda not okay anymore in a world where everyone knows that this virus can kill them.

 

And so if you need permission to take action, to go into your routine, to perform it, to, to accommodate and to look at the video or to analyze, what do you need to change by yourself, without anyone telling you exactly every step of the way you have this permission. Now you had the permission to show. I was just fighting to make sure that it is discussed openly.

 

Danny:

Yeah. So, uh, so we've looked at risk, social distancing volunteers, which is a big one for us, cleaning your equipment and wearing some protective equipment as well. But what other alternatives are there, if you, if it's not safe to perform out in real life, what can you do is if he, I know, I know there's a virtual entertainer course on KEA I haven't, I haven't watched it yet. I'm really bad. I'm sorry.

 

Zivi:

No, you're not. This is not for everyone. And some people don't need it. And I really think that these days just surviving this, whether by taking unemployment or government support of some sort or whether taking a job, I think there's nothing wrong with surviving this pandemic, just getting to the other end, where even how long it takes and just taking the time to, to adjust. I think there's nothing wrong with that. Some people have to make a liberal because they support the family as full-timers. And I see a lot of kids that they know that's due to the transition because they have to do the transition. They have to pay it. And on some locations, the government has been very generalist on the way that they support. Doesn't just, it's just, there's nothing wrong with being supported. In this moment, I work with a lot of magicians mentalist and the other business owners as a business.

Now it's not about thriving and the perfect wall. They're like just gauge the situation that they want, which is possible, but way, way harder than the situations we are in an objectively hard situation right now, there's nothing wrong with just surviving. However, I have seen kids entertainers as that's were able to perform 80 times and 40 times, 200 times and all sorts of really impressive numbers, way more than usual by having a virtual show or a virtual party in the us. But there's a time and place to talk about the features that I just, it's not something that is easy. It's something that requires work. You need to practice a bit, you need to change some of the routines to work on zoom.

And we'll talk about that in details in one of the episodes as well. But yeah, there's all sorts of options. Like for example, setting up a virtual show, other things, what other things people might do?

 

Danny:

Well, there's a lot you can do. I read a PDF by David K silly Billy. And in summary, he puts some really good things that you can do as a children's entertainer. If you're not performing, you can prepare to perform. You can learn something new from what you have already. So for example, magicians and I'm guilty as even though I don't call myself a magician, I still buy magic tricks and I have a lot of them stashed away. And now over the pandemic, I've brought them out and I've been learning them and get using things that I have paid for already and go, oh yeah, that'd be great to use when I do go back or even creating gags from them for, for users and for the listeners and viewers as well. So what can you learn from what tricks that you have you bought, or you can learn from that you can use because you've paid for it already. Why not use it and practice your skills.

 

Ziv:

Just to reflect on the pops that you only have. Like, I personally have an entire table with all of it. Low is packed with, uh, with, with magic tricks and cards and all sorts of things that I, you know, be enough for books. Oh my God. Like just books about magic that can be learned. And even by silly Billy himself, David, and his wonderful books, but you know, there's ball wisdom in this one than just using stuff that you have. And that is, I think if it makes sense to minimize your expenses to the moment.

 

Danny:

Absolutely.

 

Zivi:

And even individual show costs, we talk about how you can start with just the setup you have.

You don't have to buy anything in order to sell your first, second, third, fourth, fifth, even show you can do all of these for free, with stuff that we already have. If you're listening right now to this show, you all, you probably already have all the equipment you need in order to perform virtually. And the same with us as entertainers, getting ready for a pandemic show or a future show, you will already have everything that you need and it's okay to spend money. It's okay to decide, to spend money. I see a lot of people support in these hard times and even, uh, support in these hard science. And that is something that is, I think that people really decide who they are and support a college or an online school because they want to learn. They want to continue their professional development journey, but also because they want to support industry and they know that it supports them back, but it is okay to spend money.

It's also okay to decide not to buy new books and do your magic tricks. Like now, just to be on the safe side, especially if you have a family that you support with money, there's no events coming in as a result of the pandemic.

 

Danny:

Absolutely, I completely agree. And that's what I've been doing. Mostly trying not to spend money. And so the other thing you can do is learn a new skill. And again, you don't have to spend money, but if you're, if you're a magician, you might want to learn how to juggle and add that to your list of skills and you can juggle and anything from socks to balloons filled with, with beans and rice or whatever, and you can learn a new skill puppetry or circus skills or balloons, for example. So there are loads, there's lots of things you can do with time.

 

If you have time, if you have to go and work and earn money. Great, perfect do that. But it's also important to keep your creative skills up, whether that's learning something that you, you have already bought or learning a new skill or reading, watching videos, looking at the KEA stuff online. And there really is a huge amount of stuff to look at and really keep yourself educated and inspired and encouraged to keep going. So those are really easy things you can do.

 

Zivi:

Like you mentioned KEA, everything that you've mentioned before that line, you want to learn how to do so babbles. There's a course on that. You want to learn how to do balloons. Does it cost some that you want to learn how to track? And we have the complete lecture with the step-by-step of how to start juggling the balls and how to exercise it and everything. We have a course on that on puppet ventriloquism on really like on magic, close at magic, advanced magic for dogs. So you can really just choose it, choose a skill. And there's a book called habits of highly productive people. And it's a book. And in the book, he talks about how he expects, you know, he sees people that are highly productive. They invest about 60% of their efforts in getting better on the call, the call Teles. So as a performer, throw 60% of working on being a better actor, being a better musician, being a better entertainer, being a bit like just having another skin, every, any skill can walk, plow me in like anything can be seventh year in your show, but there are 40% that I want to mention it. That's the business side of things. And just learning how to do canva for example, and how to design, hover.com is a website for designing marketing material, how to design marketing materials, or how to like emails. There's so many things you can learn and improve in your business.

 

Danny:

Yeah. And one of those things is your social media stuff as well. And I think that's another thing you can do if you don't want to do virtual shows, you can still do videos. We have a Buster balloon and Christopher T magician making some really great videos and they're not getting paid for them. I think they're trying to do some Patrion stuff to support themselves, but really the whole idea is you're getting yourself out there in front of people on the internet because people are still watching stuff online. And when it comes to booking a party later on, then they will remember you because you've done some really great free content for them, or they perceive it as free.

Zivi:

It's even more important than just the connection with your, with your past clients or with potentially new clients as well into the future clients. Because they force themselves to create new content every week or every upset. I've seen Colin diamond do this with his show, from the shed. And it was a daily YouTube show for a while. And then later change to a weekly show. And he forced himself to actually do a joke every day with his puppets. And he did a few other things in the show, but just forcing yourself to tell a joke and perform it with choice, choosing the joke, thinking about how to make it funnier and performing it into like with those skills, they get, you get better at them as you do them, they reflect on your ability to go back and do you know if you're not practicing, you're not performing your skills actually are getting worse.

 

Danny:
That's just the way life is. It's like, if you don't go to the gym or exercise daily, your muscles, don't do what this, you have to exercise. And it's exactly the same. You have to exercise your creative brain, your performing skills need a workout. So even if you're not doing virtual shows or performing live, it's really great to perform for your telephone or your camera, your smartphone, or your webcam or whatever it is because you are performing. Even if it's nobody live, you can edit it, you can retake it. I didn't do that very well. I'm going to do it again but better. And so it's really, really important to keep, to keep your skills up. And that's why I will take this opportunity now to thank you for giving me some webinars and lectures, because it's made me creative. So, you know, I did one on gags with balloons. I did one on gags with PPE equipment and safety stuff for the pandemic shows and I'm getting together a new one, which I think we're filming very soon for a costume gags jacks, with stuff that you take to your shows anyway.

 

Zivi:
Lectures, there's, people can actually watch and rewatch and it forces you to be creative, but it also gives a lot of good ideas.

Danny:
Yeah. But it, it makes me feel, ah, yeah, I'm, I'm being creative, I'm working and keeping my creative juices flowing is really important. So, yeah. And, and I tell that to my clients that I direct as well, that I, you need to just keep going and keep creating material, even though you might not use it in real shows, but you can also use it online as well. You can do little videos that have gags that you may never use again, but it's recorded. It's on the interweb and it's there for people to see and for you to be reminded of it as well. So keeping your ideas flowing is really important, really important.

 

Zivi:

What else does, uh, David Kaley recommends?

 

Danny:

So he says, take the time to examine your props on your costume. What looks shabby, what needs retweaking and re ah, is there a hole in your costume? It needs sewing up. Maybe you just need a whole new costume. Maybe you want to learn the new skill of sewing or something like that and make a new costume, but look at what you have already and what looks are, you know what, when I go back, I want that to look really smart. I want to look really great when I return. So now's the time to re-examine what needs replacing, what needs rehashing, what needs refurbishing and just use this time really well.

 

Zivi:

Yeah. I love it. I love the idea of redoing your costume. We have a Sunday edition in Israel for the magician circle in Israel, at the society of magicians, where I volunteered as director of finances. So we do zoom meeting every week with, uh, with people doing lectures, uh, in Hebrew, in Israel. And, uh, one magician told the story just this Sunday, um, about how he was having a costume of a magician, like a magician magician costume with the hat and the tuxedo, and like everything very fancy, but he's a pizza entertainers.

 

And he, he does funny magic all the time. Like, uh, petitioning, everything breaks, everything falls, everything. He doesn't see what is happening. And then he told the story of how this branding guy told him, why are you wearing these clauses? Like you're behaving as if you're not good at magic. Like if you're constantly failing, the kids are always better than you in understanding the situation. And yet your best is if you are like the most sophisticated, a magician in the world, like a hundred years ago, that is how magicians would wear the clothes is of 50 years, whatever. And then he thought about it after he overcame the initial emotional feeling that that was not fun to hear. He actually did make the change and started where all these fun colorful closes that kids could easily relate to almost like a pajama of some sorts, but just like one notch higher than a pajama.

Zivi:

And I've seen like, he does the same. He doesn't look like a magician when he's wearing his costume for a walk, which is really like very family friendly. Um, that is not looking like a professional magician. So you can take this idea of revamping your costume and make it more related to what you do in your show. And it doesn't have to be expensive. It doesn't have to be done by a master tailor. Um, even though that's fun too. Yeah. It's a huge opportunity here to be deal show to pay your customer. It's just something that is going to be fun and creative for you.

 

Danny:
Absolutely. I really think this is the time to reconsider without spending money. But what is it, what is your essence of being a performer? And I think we're going to do a talk on that later on in the series and to think, how do you want to come across to your audience and future audiences?

What is really, what is your character? You know, you could develop your character while, while you're not performing as well. I'm sure there's character development stuff on the KEA. Yeah. So I think it's really good to just sit back and have a think. We have thinking time now, normally when we're running around doing all kinds of things, we don't have the time to think. Maybe you just go, okay, the half an hour a day, I'm going to think I'm going to go for a walk or just go look myself in my room or whatever you have, whatever situation you're in, make it work for you and go and think, okay, what is it? What is it that I want to do? What is it really use this time to think and think deeply, not just, ah, yeah. I'll change my costume. No, no, no, no.

Why, why, why do you want to change? Why do you want to update your props? Why do you want to add new tricks? Why do you want to do WHY is a great question.

 

Zivi:

Love it. So a lot about clarity, you know, understanding whether you want to go with this without the wide, uh, how we know where to go. So we are kind of wrapping up. We need to wrap up in terms of time, but what are the other tips? Just let's bend them.

 

Danny:
Review your marketing and social media and websites. So if you haven't looked at your website for a while, maybe it's time to do that. And if you've thought about the why's, maybe you can add that to your website and change things there as well, or review your marketing. I'm not a marketing expert. You are Zivi. So, but look at, there are marketing tips everywhere and KEA and BAC.

So look at those again and keep pumping out social media. If it's relevant to you, Hey, today, I'm looking at my costume. What do you think? Do you prefer this one or this one? Ask questions of your view of your social viewers.

 

Zivi:

Love it about the website. You just want to mention the was a, an episode on magician business podcast recently, like relatively recently about search engine optimization. And right now, because there's less people talking about kids at the payments on the website at the moment, a lot of kids that the thing is they just don't have the patience to do it under the pandemic. Even more than ever. It makes the competition easier for Google. So I've been coaching people on how to do SEO and all the information is out there in that episode on nutrition business podcast. And they get faster results because what Google Google is looking at, let's say, handle hundred websites locally on your, in your state or in your country or wherever you are in your county, right?

 

It looks in those into what those 100 websites and all of them are not being updated except for one. And that one is suddenly getting some more juice, some more Google juice, and they get more exposure. Even though there's not as many people are searching for, but there are still people that are searching for kids or sorts of visits. So it's an opportunity like now, if you're listening to this, you can, you can do your marketing and you can practice doing your marketing. Even if the results will not be good. Failure marketing is, is this principle that I believe in, well, you you're okay with failing. It's okay to not get results because you're possibly doing a test. You constantly learning from the marketing and you're getting better in marketing. And that's a skill too. So we kinda need to wrap up. Was there any, any final notes about, uh, is yeah, it is.

Danny:

And you have to find your own way if it's virtual great. If it's in real life, be safe and be prepared and be informed. And I think any, anything is possible at the moment, but you have to bear risk in mind. And the main thing is, keep yourself healthy and your family healthy and your audience healthy as well. That's really boils. That's what it boils down to. Yeah.

 

Zivi:

Uh, this is going to be a weekly show. We'll going through the list, lots of deeper topics. And that will allow you to think about how to do those things that we've discussed today. So if you wanted to, and you show your, get more ideas and inspirations about ways to do that, if you want to go feel too out of it, we'll have a session talking about that. So in this pandemic season, season, number seven, we're hoping to give you inspiration.

 

You know, some of those topics, some of the things that we're talking about relevant, even without the pandemic, it's just that right now, it's more important than ever to discuss those topics. So they initialize them. I really have to say, thank you so much for, uh, picking up this whole cohost podcast. We are creating a resource that will hopefully will help many is always very generous and creative with your research and with your experience as a kids and a director. I just want to say, thank you for joining the show.

 

Danny:

Thank you for inviting me. I'm really excited.

 

Zivi:
And guys, thank you for listening for the Kids Entertainer Podcast. We do have a Facebook group called kids entertainers, or you can join it, pick up the discussion. And of course, please consider sharing the whereabouts of this podcast. Share the fact that this podcast exists with some of your friends, so that we could all go together and keep the fire alive and encourage additional people in this situation. This is all about the installation, the motivation, as well as the education for the kids, that us, wherever they are. So thank you for listening and see you next week on the Kids Entertainer Podcast.

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